🚨 A recording of DeepSeek’s founder has been leaked! They finally said the quiet part out loud, and it may cost DeepSeek a $71 billion valuation.
For years Washington accused Chinese labs of smuggling banned Nvidia chips and running on borrowed American silicon. Beijing called it paranoia. Then, on July 22, a recording from a closed-door investor meeting held by DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng leaked and tore across Chinese networks. In it, Liang confirms nearly every suspicion himself.
We know how a founder sounds when he thinks the door is shut. Liang was not selling. He was confessing. DeepSeek, he admitted, holds only about 20,000 Nvidia H-series-equivalent chips, most delivered in just the past month or two. Even if the company burned every yuan of its 50-billion-RMB first round, he said flatly, it "couldn't afford to train" a frontier model. "Even if we stacked one up, we couldn't afford to run it."
Then came the number that should end the "China has caught up" narrative. America's largest models run roughly 80 billion active parameters; China's best sit in the tens of billions, a full order of magnitude behind. By his own account, Chinese labs can only train models "ten times smaller" than their US rivals.
The domestic-chip fairytale fared no better. Huawei boasted on July 17 that its Ascend 950 SuperPod delivers 6.7 times the compute of Nvidia's comparable rack. Liang's private math: four Huawei 950s to match a single Nvidia GB300, and two years behind on process. The 16,000 Huawei cards he has been allocated? Equivalent, he shrugged, to about 4,000 Nvidia B-series chips, "not a big deal."
So where does the real compute come from? Liang says it plainly: "We can buy some non-compliant cards," meaning chips under US export controls. That is not a loophole. That is a smuggling supply chain, and it now has a founder's voice attached to it.
The enforcement trail backs him up. In March, a Supermicro co-founder and a Taiwanese middleman were arrested for reselling restricted chips into China. In June, Taiwanese prosecutors raided a board maker and detained executives over the same trade. Washington has since warned that a chip's location no longer matters: if the user or parent company sits in China, the controls follow it.
That is the trap DeepSeek just walked into. Liang thought he was rallying nervous investors with "positive energy." Instead he handed the US Commerce Department a confession, exposed how wide Beijing's compute gap really runs, and spooked his own backers badly enough to freeze a round that would have valued the company at $71 billion, up 37 percent from June.
DeepSeek has not confirmed the tape's authenticity and will not touch the funding question. It does not need to. The most damaging testimony against China's AI miracle did not come from a US agency or a rival lab. It came from the man Beijing keeps holding up as proof that it is winning.
ACI — Aric Chen | Insights
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